. >> it means we're going to talk about, yes, deficits and taxes and is sequesters and potl government shutdown, but all from the perspective of how are we making sure that somebody who works hard in this country, a cop or a teacher or a construction worker, or a receptionist, that they can make it if they work hard? and that their kids can make it? >> what's the message there to you, chris. >> he wants to be a transformative president in the second term and move from the center right idea that says cutting and less government is better ffr the economy to one that says that the government can plan, organize, direct economic activity and take tax revenues and borrowed money to stimulate and help out these middle class people, but it doesn't sync up with what people are thinking now so the president has a big sales job ahead of him and to your point, you and janice were talking about, if you've already been hit by one storm, the recession that followed the panic of 2008 and if you're waiting for the next storm to hit land, my goodness, not receptive to the idea of the government borrowin